AIR Meeting Minutes from Belgium
STORMS Project
3-5th July 1996
DGXII, Brussels, Belgium
Present:
Joensuu: |
Seppo Kellomaki |
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Aberdeen: |
N/A |
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Heli Peltola |
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Ari Talkkari |
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CNIG: |
Maria Vasconcelos |
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Galway: |
N/A |
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MLURI: |
Marianne Broadgate |
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Florestal: |
N/A |
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David Miller |
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Umea: |
Erik Valinger |
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FC, NRS |
N/A |
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Visitors: |
Alexandros Arabatzis (EC, DGXII) |
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CHAIRMAN: |
Seppo Kellomaki |
MINUTES: |
Marianne Broadgate |
Activities of the Meeting
1. Opening Welcome by Seppo Kellomaki and Alexandros Arabatzis
2. Presentation Review of the last 18
months The meeting was chaired by Seppo Kellomaki,
who gave an overview of each task as it was presented, task deliverables, and
those presenting the sub-tasks.
DAY 1
Introduction |
Seppo Kellomaki |
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Objectives, Methodology, Expectations |
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Overview of Tasks and Timetabling |
Damage |
Maria Vasconcelos FIRE |
Overview |
Erik Valinger WIND and SNOW |
Task 1 |
1.1 & 1.2 David Miller |
Task 2 |
2.1 Erik Valinger |
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2.2 & 2.3 Heli Peltola |
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2.4 Maria Vasconcelos |
Task 3 |
3.1 & 3.3 Heli Peltola |
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3.2 Erik Valinger |
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3.4 Maria Vasconcelos |
Task 4 |
4.1 & 4.2 David Miller |
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4.2 Erik Valinger |
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4.3 & 4.4 Maria Vasconcelos |
Task 5 |
5.3, 5.1 & 5.2 Marianne Broadgate |
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5.2 Ari Talkkari |
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5.4, 5.5 & 5.6 Maria Vasconcelos
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DAY 2 |
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Demonstrations |
(3 videos, computer tree models, orthophotos) |
Task 6 |
6.1 & 6.2 Marianne Broadgate |
Task 7 |
7.1 Ari Talkkari |
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7.3 Marianne Broadgate |
Task 8 |
8.1 Seppo Kellomaki |
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8.2 Marianne Broadgate
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3. Comments and discussions of work with Dr Arabatzis
Overview Dr
Arabatzis opened the meeting by indicating its two main purposes. The first was
to enable him to help us in any way he could in terms of administration of the
project and particularly in terms of re-timetabling any items which proved more
troublesome than expected. He assured us that he is available for contact at
any time throughout the project to help in an administrative capacity. He also
emphasised the benefit of the project, which was the integration of the models
to go some way towards providing a global view of the problem rather than being
focussed on certain aspects. He particularly cited the input that could be
provided for primary and secondary production, and market requirements to
predict characteristics such as the quality of products with respect to
silvicultural strategies.
Task Comments The comments which were made will be posted to the mailing list
for discussion.
ACTION: Marianne to post summary of comments to
the mailing list.
Six Monthly Reports
Dr Arabatzis requested that only a very short summary ,of
progress (a couple of pages at the most) should be sent to him from the
coordinator in lieu of the six month reports. This was to limit the time input
required by him to assimilate progress on the project and to reduce the time
spent by participants in preparing reports. The annual reporting will of course
be retained in its present form, but it was suggested that time spent producing
the six month reports might be more profitably spent developing web pages to
publicise the project results to a wider audience.
ACTION: At six monthly intervals, all
participants should produce some presentation material for either (or both) of
the public and private pages of the web site. These pages would, in most cases,
reside in the institutes which produced them where they could be easily
maintained in a distributed fashion, but linked to the MLURI web pages.
ACTION: Ari to make available via the ftp site a
DOS programme for conversion of rtf format to htm. (This has been done:
MSDOS program called rtftohtm.exe. It is now available in the
ftpsite in Joensuu outgoing/rtftohtm.zip. Just unzip the file and it is
ready to run.)
Immediate directional concerns
It was stressed that the silvicultural aspects of the
STORMS project are its most important assets Those aspects are missing from
other work concerning forest damage. It was noted that the STORMS project fell
within other spheres of interest and therefore may not survive past the current
period in its present form. Other programmes exist which deal with forest and
environment issues (notably Env. Climate which deals with natural hazard and
FIR Programme which is concerned with silvicultural methods). Therefore it was
stressed that future work should focus on direct input to forest managers to
produce something that they can use. It was mentioned at this point that FC are
currently concentrating much of their effort on this particular issue. What is
required are variables which are easy to measure and access, with an emphasis
on real-time communications (for example through the web). Foresters required
tools which were not too complex to use. Accuracy and error were particularly
difficult to deal with in complex models, but some addressing of this problem
was required. A definite forest management strategy was required to enhance the
project.
Dr Arabatzis enquired whether a conference to
present the results of the project had been considered, and participants
intimated some of the plans relating to the End of Project Conference in
Joensuu currently being discussed.
It was also suggested that if funding was
required for participants to attend conferences outside Europe in order to
publicise the project findings, then authorisation would be required from Dr
Arabatzis to use current funding in this way. However he assured us that this
authorisation would be forthcoming.
Maria suggested that further publicity might be
obtained through an exhibition at EXPO'98 which is due to be held in Lisbon.
CNIG has already booked space, and it would be possible to occupy some of this
for the STORMS project. Inclusion of a page
concerning Matrix Issues such as model and data interactions (Exchange between
Umea and Joensuu to be used as a first example).
Future directional concerns
Dr Arabatzis suggested that the STORMS group had a good
chance of funding under the 5th Framework providing a good proposal was
submitted including, particularly, aspects of economics and production in
relation to the use of integrated models by Forest Managers, emphasising
silvicultural strategies and real time communications.
It was agreed that this subject should be addressed
during the Umea meeting.
Maria proposed that we should consider forming a
network for the exchange of personnel, particularly students. It was agreed
that this was another important item for consideration and discussion in Umea
and in advance of Umea.
ACTION: Erik to circulate doctoral thesis on
precision pixel forestry between participants. ACTION: Marianne to develop an "Issues" page relating
to model-data interractions.
4. Arrangements for the Umea Meeting
Dates The
dates agreed in Inveraray, 22nd to 27th October still seem to be the most
suitable.
Timetable The
following format was suggested by Erik for the meeting and agreed by those
present:
22nd Oct |
Arrival at Umea |
23rd Oct |
Presentation of participants work (last six months) |
24th Oct |
Visit to experimental station North of Umea where interesting |
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work is being carried out involving meteorological
measurements. |
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Erik will try to arrange transport by bus so that
discussions can take place during the journey. |
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Viewing of a high tech. harvesting machine in a
forest. |
25th Oct |
Project Integration Discussions (evening - possible concert) |
26th Oct |
Project Integration Discussions/Inter-task discussions |
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Discussion of proposal for EC 5th
Framework |
27th Oct |
Further dicussions if required |
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Departure
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Meeting venue The
meeting will be held in Umea University
ACTION: Erik to send out message confirming
arrangements for Umea ACTION: All participants to
let Erik know what computing facilities will be required for the
meeting. ACTION: Marianne to make up an agenda for
Task 6 discussions to be agreed by all participants at the end of August. Prior
to this Marianne will request responses from groups in advance as input to the
Task 6 planning. ACTION: Seppo to send a formal
invitation to Dr Arabatzis to attend the meeting, including details of the
meeting agenda (Dr Arabatzis expressed particular interest in attending the
meeting for the Task 6 discussions, and it was felt that his input would be
very useful in this context). ACTION: Erik to
reserve accommodation in Umea well in advance (bookings may be difficult given
that the Festival will attract visitors requiring accomodation)
5. Important Administrational Dates for
Participants
Chris on Holiday |
Until Mid-July |
Barry on Holiday |
Until Mid-July? |
Heli on Holiday |
During most of July |
Seppo on holiday |
During July |
Ari on holiday |
13th - 29th July |
David on holiday |
July 25 - Aug 5 |
Erik in South Africa |
August 22nd - Sept 2nd |
Erik Moose Hunting |
Beginning of September |
Maria in Italy |
June and July |
Maria in Portugal (field work) |
August (possible intermittent email contact) |
Maria in Italy |
September |
Tiago in the field |
July, August, September (Maria to possibly arrange a beeper for fax
contact) |
Marianne in France |
Aug 26th - 31st |
Marianne in Hong Kong |
Dec 12th - Jan 11th |
Chris (+ Heli + Barry?) in Canada |
August 18th - 31st |
Chris away |
Sept 9-11, 13-19 inclusive, Oct 7-11 |
Juan Suarez starts work for FC on this
Project |
September 20th |
Jonas Returns from Bosnia |
October 4th |
ACTION: Marianne to produce calender of dates on the
web (including leave absences of participants)
6. Close